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25 May
Podfire was launched on 30 April 2008 to much fanfare.
From the get go, it was an interesting experience working with “different” people. For the host and producer of one of the shows (for convenience’s sake, we’ll call it “the show” from here on) were pretty temperamental.
The Show
I hadn’t had much contact with the producer & host before we signed them on to do the show. It was really the producer’s initial concept - and i respected that.
However, as the scheduled filming loomed closer, i decided to have a look at their previous works (the producer and the hosts’ previous collaborations). I was horrified! They had no idea how to present, wafer-thin content, inferior equipment and cheesy editing.
Time for an intervention!
I sat the producer down and planned through the storyboard and sequence of the shoot. I didn’t want to improvise and “wing-it” on the day of the shooting. The producer was in agreement.
We shot episode 1 and 2 on the same day. It was a tiring experience. The producer hadn’t pre-arranged to film at the locations. The burden fell on me to PR with the owners - spoke in my limited Chinese to convince the owners to let us film at their premises. In all fairness, we didn’t know the exact address of the food stalls to make the arrangements.
I had the foresight to create a logo beforehand… and to add in a Chinese name in the title so that chinese stall keepers could understand what we are doing. Some perceived credibility goes a long way.
The agreement was that Podfire provided the video equipment and manpower for the filming. Podfire also did the editing of the show as the producer and host didn’t have a Mac to do post-production. I tried my best to keep them in the loop… but with the producer having a day job meant we can’t meet during office hours to review the footage.
In the frantic rush to meet the 30 April Soft Launch deadline, i probably pushed too hard on the creative direction. But it was all for the good of the show. I did my best with the material that i have and the host that the producer chose.
But the unreasonable characters soon reared its ugly head…
First they were angry that i didn’t show them the finished video before we released it. All they had to do was ask and i would have gladly showed them the video at my office. The host drives for goodness sake.
Next they didn’t like the fact that the videos was too polished - they deliberately wanted it to be crappy so as to draw the ire and whiplash of the community (which probably explained the quality of their previous collaborations). This point i was in disagreement - for the bad quality reflects badly on the image of Podfire and our shows. Yes, we are new to this game, but we are dedicated to a certain production quality - near broadcast quality if possible.
Then they were unhappy about a simple little watermark that my lawyers said we need to put on the video for anti-piracy protection. After speaking to the host, we agreed that there was a better way to present the watermark and we agreed to make amends in the next episode.
I was ready to accommodate to all their needs. I even offered to let them do the post-production using the equipment at my office (a Quad Core Mac Pro) so that they can have full creative control over how the show is presented.
We had planned for a 5 episode pilot season… but i felt really the show had potential and i told the producer we should push it further beyond the initial 5. I was ready to go all the way with them.
The Backstab
After our first day of shooting, the producer started asking many detailed questions about the gear that Podfire were using. At first, i thought that it was just professional curiosity. Then he started probing into the model numbers and cost of the equipment. That probably started off some alarm bells… but i gave them the benefit of the doubt.
As it turns out, the producer was amassing his own resources to start a production company. I knew he was gonna get his own gear to film another podcast show - but i didn’t know his plans went as far as setting up a competing company.
What angered me wasn’t the fact that they wanted to compete… but the fact that he started talking to talents that i was pursuing for new shows. He was pitching show ideas to people to do podcast shows with him - without telling who it was for.
I only have myself to blame for openly sharing podcast ideas i had in development. Such an abuse of my trust could not be tolerated.
Mixed Signals
Then the producer and host started giving me mixed signals. The host wanted to stay on with Podfire while the other wanted to pull out of Podfire because of “creative differences”. To me, these were mere teething issues in a brand new collaboration - differences in working styles that could be ironed out eventually.
Then again, from my conversations with the host, i realise that the producer had wanted to setup his own production company all along. He just lacked the resources or smarts to get it done. I suppose “creative differences” seems to be a convenient excuse to get out of a working relationship with Podfire.
Conclusion
I embraced the duo when others warned me not to. I nurtured the show and brought it to life so that they could gain fame and recognition from it. I invested time and money for the show. Yet all i had in return was insult, betrayal and frustrating confusion.
How does one expect me to react? I forgive them and wish them all the best. They had also probably invested much money into their new business - which i am wondering how the producer can cope with his own day job? And the poor host has to do all the post-production and marketing work that i used to do for them. I’m sure they will have their share of birth pains and probably should evaluate their options carefully.
If its competition they want, they should probably stay out of Podfire’s way.
25 Responses for "Podfire: An exercise in dealing with unreasonable people"
Hey Mic,
I’m very sorry to hear things ended up this way. It’s true, there were quality issues (to be fair with both Blogger’s Treats & Geek Goddess TV), but as you mentioned in your post, this is literally the first of it’s kind here in Singapore (maybe Asia!) and we’re all trying to push the boundaries and try new things together, so teething problems are bound to happen.
“The Producer” mentioned this to me today and I mentioned that I think our social media population is just too small to be encouraging “competition” and it should be all about collaboration! Idealistic, I know, but I really have to say that going to the extent of having two companies spending money on high end equipment is probably a waste of good resources that could be better spent elsewhere.
In any case, I don’t think either side is necessarily right/wrong, but I wish both of you the best. Ultimately, the community will decide the outcome.
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My personal opinion that it is time to look beyond just the blogger community alone when we consider social media. I believe it is useless if all the people who knows about podfire remains the very people who went for the opening and their friends.
I will start telling first, my colleagues in my dept (we are the IT) about Podfire when I get back to office on Monday. Then I will go on and tell my own internet savvy friends and acquaintance without a blogging presence about Podfire. I think when the name Podfire starts appearing in Forums, in the news (i.e. the traditional media) then it is truly becoming successful.
Just having bloggers talk about it and then having it disappears under the test of time is meaningless. That’s exactly the failure social media model which Endoh was talking about.
@Daryl Tay: I agree. It is rather unfortunate that things turned out this way.
@xizor2000: I totally agree… Podfire needs to broaden its reach into other medium. Watch out for new developments in the coming weeks!
Thank god you didn’t go with their idea of being crappy to get people riled up. (Wth?)
That’s such a trollish mentality.
Good luck with your shows! I see huge potential in them.
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I think it is unprofessional of media slut and sabrina to do just that learning everything they can and run their own business later. Not professional at all.
@Wendy: Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Mic, you know where I stand. I wish you all the best.
And xizor, you are right. I have been guilty of not sharing enough with my other friends not tuned in to the blogging scene. No more.
I like your new food show by the way. But like I said in my comment on that blog, damn cheating lah.
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Hi Mic,
Such is the nature of the human spirit I guess.
Please don’t stop doing what you’re doing, although at times I felt the shows pretty corny, but hey, I thought the same when “The Office UK” first came out.
I like what you’re doing and I’m looking forward to more podcasts. Your latest food show is pretty interesting as what #7 said. I remember hearing about this stall very long time ago and I think I did pass by their stall before, although I don’t remember it being the current decor it is now.
Keep on’ pumping!
@Ian Timothy: Ha ha… gotta admit, eye candy does help. Must think of some ways to help everyone tell their friends about Podfire. Hmm…
@David Chua: Many thanks. My resolve to continue doing this was strengthened by this… and by the support of my many friends in the blogosphere and outside.
Yes, look out for new shows launching in June… i’d like to think its an exciting line-up.
hope you will enjoy them.
Sorry to hear about that. A learning experience is never really bad, just bitter, anyhow.
Anyway, just keep pushing ahead with Podfire. It’s good stuff!
Another lesson learnt I guess, but just keep on doing what you been doing, as long as the quality is good things will be fine.
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Oh, you mean Aaron Koh = The Media Slut. So, he and Sabrina are the two backstabbers.
O u mean themediaslut & Sabrina purposedly want 2 produce low quality shows 2 ‘win’ the irk & possible sympathy of de blogging community? Is dat de same reason why Sabrina & her sista had flame wars on their blogs just a few weeks back? Interesting strategy, very cunning. I wonder abt their other evil plans & what else they do to get ahead by backstabbing de people ard them.
2 mi, looks like if its competitn dat podfire wants, u shd probably stay out of their conniving ways!
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hang on there. it will turn out well
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In media, any news is good news. I guess sabrina is taking a cheap shot at fame. But hang on, is this saga another episode of cheap shot ?
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Hmm… where did i mention the names of the producer & the host?
In a way i say u gain from this ’saga’ more than u lost. That is because ppl like me starts to learn more about podfire and loving it.. I’m glad that you decided to stick to quality as well.. that is very important imo..
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i’m appalled at how “professional” some people can me. but do keep faith. i believe a good work done with sincerity will be paid off. if the producer is as lousy as you say, his production company wont last long. good luck!
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blogger’s treat was doomed the moment the idea was conceived.
food-related content has been running on Mediacorp TV for at least the past 10 years, and has even expanded beyond your shores to Msia. Reason being there’s just “so much” eateries you can review in this tiny dot. the recent series was really clutching at straws.
i’m aware that the “focus” and “audience” and “whatnot” and “fill-in-your-own-impressive-marketing-junk-jargon” are different, but they’re essentially digging onto the SAME goddamn small pool of eateries in SG. Mediacorp has essentially wiped and combed the entire SG, and now Blogger’s Treat wanting to do the same defies any trace of logic.
if anything, i think it is just an attempt to make $ via advertising. but judging by the 3 episodes so far, i doubt any company (or person for that matter) would wanna be associated with Blogger’s Treat, let alone pay.
can’t fault the trying though.
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Well we have people who know nuts about production and post-production work going into such thing, and gaining popularity from that… It really is insulting for people who actually does that for a living.
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